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MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 30 September 2017, 16:08
by Shakes
Hi all.

Could desperately do with some help re this controller.
I've read previous posts and followed the advice and answers given but I'm obviously missing something.

I cannot get preset or fader buttons to correctly respond to any rotary controller other than "off (0%)" and/or "maximum (100%)" however, fader controllers do work as desired.

I have 2 scenarious I'm trying to achieve.
i. Rotary to control a preset button for fixture colour wheels and gobos.
ii. I have fader buttons in live that control pan and tilt of fixtures. I'm trying to gain control of these via a rotary encoder as means of a manual overide.

As mentioned. Faders on the MIDIcon DO work but rotaries don't.

Can anyone give an "Idiots guide" please?

Thanks

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 30 September 2017, 17:35
by support
Sorry but our software is presently not able to manage such midi signal.

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 30 September 2017, 18:11
by Shakes
Thanks support for your prompt reply.

Shame but hopefully rotary controls can be included in future updates?

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 01 October 2017, 17:48
by support
Not sure presently.
Before we will have to check two things:
1. is it exclusive on this device or not ?
2. if not, how to manage that with our software ?

We do not think we could study that before V9 will be ready (no date for V9).

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 02 October 2017, 21:15
by Shakes
Excert from the MIDIcon manual.
All rotaries are basic data but no idea how you'd incorporate it into the software. :?

Wheels
Wheel 1 turn right 1 click – Note 78
Wheel 1 turn left 1 click – Note 79
Wheel 1 Press in – Note 102
Wheel 2 turn right 1 click – Note 80
Wheel 2 turn left 1 click – Note 81
Wheel 2 Press in – Note 103
Wheel 3 turn right 1 click – Note 82
Wheel 3 turn left 1 click – Note 83
Wheel 3 Press in – Note 104
Wheel 4 turn right 1 click – Note 84
Wheel 4 turn left 1 click – Note 85
Wheel 4 Press in – Note 105

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 02 October 2017, 21:29
by support
Noted.
Thank you.

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 18 January 2018, 01:51
by OneStopProuduction
Hello,
I recently encountered this problem as well. Does anyone know why the original Midicons rotary wheels worked and why the MIDIcon 2 does not? I'm definently not impressed with the new board. Of course the old ones rotary wheels worked, but also had the nice flash button panel.

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 23 January 2018, 19:49
by BartKrap
Yes, it has to do with the way the data is coded. There is a small difference between the coding in the original MIDICON and the new one so SX doesn't register the new rotary encoders.

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 26 January 2018, 10:26
by Niffo
Please, can someone post the midi log obtained in the "Midi logger" window when rotating these MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders ?

Re: MIDIcon 2 Rotary Encoders

PostPosted: 20 February 2018, 22:19
by OneStopProuduction
Same value when rotated. I rotated each wheel starting with the left wheel and then moving right.

MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 78, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 80, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 80, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 80, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 80, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 80, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 82, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127
MIDIcon 2, Note on: 84, 127

Why would Elation do this? To me it seems as they sent them out with the wrong midi coding.